{"id":1252,"date":"2019-04-03T13:31:21","date_gmt":"2019-04-03T13:31:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/?p=1252"},"modified":"2019-04-03T13:31:29","modified_gmt":"2019-04-03T13:31:29","slug":"smiths-response-to-hirshbergs-crazy-wisdom-enlightened-iconoclasm-in-tibet-guru-sex-scandals-in-the-west","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/uncategorized\/smiths-response-to-hirshbergs-crazy-wisdom-enlightened-iconoclasm-in-tibet-guru-sex-scandals-in-the-west\/","title":{"rendered":"Smith&#8217;s Response to Hirshberg&#8217;s &#8220;Crazy Wisdom? Enlightened Iconoclasm in Tibet, Guru Sex Scandals in the West&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While\nthis was an absolutely fascinating lecture on Tibetan Buddhism and iconoclasm,\nthere wasn&#8217;t much in it that I would truly consider &#8220;crazy&#8221; even\nthough one of the Awakened Buddhists himself (Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche) coined\nthe phrase &#8220;crazy wisdom&#8221; in the West. Much of the &#8220;crazy&#8221;\nparts simply sounded to me like a cultural disconnect between East and West. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Perhaps\nit&#8217;s because I&#8217;m pretty liberal and into philosophy, and had to read a lot of\nNietzsche in the past, but a lot of the ideas behind Buddhism in the lecture\ngiven made sense to me, and didn&#8217;t seem crazy at all (e.g. that the &#8220;self\ndoesn&#8217;t exist the way it appears&#8221; \u2013 that nothing really exists simply as\nit appears on the surface, and that everything, even negative\/harmful emotions\ncan be harnessed for the benefit of others and transmuted into a positive\/constructive\nforce if done correctly and one has the knowledge and skill to do such a thing.\nAnger for the sake of anger doesn&#8217;t get anything done, and only leads to more\nanger, for example). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\nwere one or two individuals that were eyebrow raising in their level of inappropriate\nbehavior and general &#8220;craziness&#8221; (probably because of near perpetual\nintoxication, since most &#8220;), but for <em>most<\/em>\nof the lecture I felt that the &#8220;Crazy Wisdom&#8221; aspect of the lecture\nwas more of a cultural disconnect than anything else. To Westerners, a lot of\nEast\/Southeast Asian cultural norms seem &#8220;crazy&#8221; and &#8220;weird&#8221;\nbut mostly because their cultural norms aren&#8217;t Western cultural norms and most everyday\npeople&#8217;s kneejerk reaction is to go &#8220;That&#8217;s so crazy\/weird&#8221; when\nencountering something from another culture that&#8217;s different than our own. If\nyou were to take a step back and think about it, consider it from another person&#8217;s\nperspective\/culture, then perhaps you wouldn&#8217;t think it so crazy at all. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Outside\nof only a handful of individual practitioners\/leaders, who seemed to be\noutliers and eccentrics, they seemed very not-crazy at all. Normal by their own\nculture&#8217;s standards. Trying to normalize them Western standards would be ignorant\nat best and racist at worst \u2013 eccentric outliers not considered. \n\nHirshberg&#8217;s\nlecture was fascinating and enlightening \u2013 and I don&#8217;t think I could consider practitioners\nof the iconoclastic Tibetan Buddhism as crazy. It&#8217;s simply a different\nreligious culture than I&#8217;m used to seeing, and while I&#8217;m ignorant on a great\nmany things, I&#8217;m not ignorant enough to write them off as certifiably insane. \n\n\n\n<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While this was an absolutely fascinating lecture on Tibetan Buddhism and iconoclasm, there wasn&#8217;t much in it that I would truly consider &#8220;crazy&#8221; even though one of the Awakened Buddhists himself (Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche) coined the phrase &#8220;crazy wisdom&#8221; in the West. Much of the &#8220;crazy&#8221; parts simply sounded to me like a cultural disconnect &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/uncategorized\/smiths-response-to-hirshbergs-crazy-wisdom-enlightened-iconoclasm-in-tibet-guru-sex-scandals-in-the-west\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Smith&#8217;s Response to Hirshberg&#8217;s &#8220;Crazy Wisdom? Enlightened Iconoclasm in Tibet, Guru Sex Scandals in the West&#8221;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[48,33],"class_list":["post-1252","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-cpr-series-mad-lectures","tag-section-02"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/papJgd-kc","jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1252","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1252"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1252\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1253,"href":"https:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1252\/revisions\/1253"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1252"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1252"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/courses.chris-foss.net\/dislit19\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1252"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}